Posts by Lee Marsh

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Stage 4 Cancer, Stem Cell Transplant and Blood Transfusions

by NJ501 in

today, i received a call from my oncologist nurse.

she informed me that i will need to sign a consent form for a blood transfusion.

the doctor will see me next wednesday to go through the consent form with me.

Lee Marsh

When I was in university I took an Ethics course. One chapter in the textbook addressed Jehovah's Witnesses and the Blood Issue. I chose that to write my paper. At the time I was POMI.

I went to McGill University's Medical Library which is huge. I looked up every article I could find that supported the JW belief in blood transfusions. There were a lot of them. And I got an A++ on the paper. My professor wanted me to get it published. I couldn't do it even though getting it published in a major medical journal would have been a real coup.

It took me a few years and getting to POMO before I realized the problem with the paper.

It was severely biased, one sided. No journal would have accepted it despite the mark I got from the professor.

Good research requires that you look at BOTH sides of the issue. And I really didn't do that.

So, why am I telling you this?

Because the mountain of evidence that the WTS is wrong about the dangers of blood transfusions is completely false.

Things happen which is why they ask you to sign a release. The Dr. will give you all the information you need and answer all your questions. Honestly.

You can ask for no family to visit. That way they won't know what you are getting. Or depending on your relationship don't tell them anything. Just go get it done.

But don't risk your life for a bunch of half-truths and out-right lies.

Dangerous? Maybe. But so is crossing the street in some places. The medical profession does its very best to minimize the dangers.

Save a life. Yours!

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UK Hospital using Kingdom Melodies - complaint

by AEnEm in

i found out that a uk hospital (nnuh) uses kingdom melodies as hold music, apparently for some years!

i called and heard it myself.

i wrote an email to the complaints team and await a response.

Lee Marsh

It is simple. The hospital has one agenda here. Protect themselves. If they did not have permission from the WTS to use the songs they can and would be sued. They will take them down ASAP.

Trauma to ex-JWs. They don't get it.

Coercion re the blood issue: They won't get it.

They rest: They don't get it.

But money talks. And in this case, I suspect, very LOUDLY.

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July 2023 Study Watchtower - Great Tribulation is coming soooooooooooooon!

by BoogerMan in

is this the "great tribulation" which jesus warned he would bring upon the corrupt christian congregations worldwide, (revelation 2:22; 7:14) or is it the same 1st century g.t.

which he said would never occur again?

(matthew 24:21).

Lee Marsh

The Great Tribulation is coming.... soon. AGAIN.

In the 70s we were told to go to our book study location. There we would get all the information we needed to go hide "in the mountain caves" Well they got rid of the book study arrangement a long time ago.

I got pregnant at the end of 71. The baby was due in May 72. When I told my mother, she yelled at me that this was no time to have babies. Now I would have a baby to drag with me when we had to escape in 1975. The baby would NEVER go to school in this system of things.

Yup. She went to school, grew up, got married, had 3 kids. They went to school and one is now married with 2 kids. The other are working and in college.

I would have missed out on being a mother, grandmother and now great grandmother if I had listened.

I also would have missed out on a college and university education and a career that I loved.

I would have missed out on meeting so many of you either online or in real life.

For those still in:

DON'T LISTEN TO THEM. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT AND WHEN ONE THING FAILS THEY JUST KEEP DELETING THE PAST AND STARTING OVER AGAIN. There is a reason they want all the old publications disposed of. They show the errors of the past just keep happening over and over and over again.

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Best of Topics

by Simon in

jw
best-of

some people had a penchant for posting their topics directly into the "best of topics" area.

it seemed more than a little arrogant to me that some imagined their every utterance was immediately a greatest hit but maybe people weren't clear on what that area was intended for .... from now on you won't be able to start new topics there.

if anyone wants to submit a topic to be added there (perhaps an index to a curated list of other topics by a user or on a certain subject / theme) then just start one in "suggestions" and pm me and, if it is suitable, then i'll move it into there.. existing topics posted there recently have been moved to more appropriate areas..

Lee Marsh

try this although the link in the Best of section did work so maybe Simon is quick on the ball and fixed it

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/104866/best-mexico-malawi

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Best of Topics

by Simon in

jw
best-of

some people had a penchant for posting their topics directly into the "best of topics" area.

it seemed more than a little arrogant to me that some imagined their every utterance was immediately a greatest hit but maybe people weren't clear on what that area was intended for .... from now on you won't be able to start new topics there.

if anyone wants to submit a topic to be added there (perhaps an index to a curated list of other topics by a user or on a certain subject / theme) then just start one in "suggestions" and pm me and, if it is suitable, then i'll move it into there.. existing topics posted there recently have been moved to more appropriate areas..

Lee Marsh

Thank you Simon

Diogenesister. I see what I can do to find an alternate link.

When the site changed names for a while some links got messed up.

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Submission and stupid rules

by Lady Lee in

what a load of crap this stupid belief was.

i'll give you a couple of examples.

i was the sign language interpreter for our congregation and there was about 15-20 deaf who regularly showed up.

Lee Marsh

LongHairGal: I guess that explains why in certain countries around the world, women are made to cover up from head to toe! Even their hair, face and ankles can’t show.

The problem with that is that it actually makes many men even more prone to sexual thoughts. Ask a man who goes to nude beaches how fast the novelty wears off. After a while you don't notice it anymore.

But it isn't the hormones that drive a man's libido as much as his brain. What he thinks is a much greater trigger for him. Showing it all, pretty much takes away the mystery. Cover it all up and all they think about is what is under all those clothes.

Vidot: We manage. Takes years of practice and self-discipline, though.

And some never manage it. All we need is a few pills and problems are solved. You poor guys.

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Submission and stupid rules

by Lady Lee in

what a load of crap this stupid belief was.

i'll give you a couple of examples.

i was the sign language interpreter for our congregation and there was about 15-20 deaf who regularly showed up.

Lee Marsh

I was reading one of the posts on the first page. - the sarcastic one where women can't lead because of hormones.

Give me a break. JWs and many others really believe this crap.

We had a brother in the congregation that got an erection every time he got on the platform. We had a small podium so we could all see it. Hard to miss. How distracted did you think his hormones were making him? it certainly distracted the audience. The elders finally got a wider podium for him to hide behind.

Some science:

In 2011, a research team based out of Ohio State University conducted a study to keep track of how often a sample of 283 college students thought about sex, food, and sleep throughout a week. The test subjects were given clickers to press every time each of these things came to mind. On average, the men reported thinking about sex 19 times a day, while the women reported thinking about it 10 times a day. https://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/a28483383/how-often-think-about-sex/

So if he sleeps just 5 hours a night, then he probably thinks about sex at least once every hour. Some hours more then others.

Scenario 1: Male on the platform looking out over the audience. Sister low-cut-dress is clearly visible. I bet ya he gets some naughty thoughts
Scenario 2: Sister in the front row keep crossing and recrossing her legs in a skirt that is just a tad, just a enough to get a small peek of thigh.
Scenario 3: Well dressed sister but with a loose top keeps bending over to pick up something giving the speaker quite the view.

No wonder women are commanded to dress "modestly". The men can't handle a bit of skin. And even if he tries not to look, once he has seen it that is all he can think about.

One study said men get about 11 erections a day, even while they are sleeping. We know they get them before they are born.

We can at least take meds to help with pain and cramps. Men have it hard. Wouldn't want to be one with that thing and the thoughts that come with it constantly distracting me.

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Deaf Aotearoa flooded with complaints about Jehovah's Witness church

by OrphanCrow in

deaf aotearoa flooded with complaints about jehovah's witness churchkashka tunstalllast updated 15:22, october 6 2015deaf aotearoa has asked the jehovah's witness church to respond to claims of a deaf information database.new zealand's deaf community is fed up with unsolicited house calls, claiming the jehovah's witness church is targeting deaf households.deaf aotearoa has received multiple complaints from around the country and says church members visited certain homes because they were aware a deaf person lived there.

the organisation released a statement on monday, saying it was looking into the possibility the church holds a database listing the details of members of the deaf community.jehovah witness spokesman rod spinks said there was no such database and deaf people were not being targeted.the deaf aotearoa statement was posted on the group's facebook page, and received a flood of comments from frustrated people.one woman said a group of jehovah's witnesses had come to her house and asked "for the deaf person who lives here.

" she said they refused to explain how they had her details and didn't visit her neighbours.another said church members had turned up at her work and asked for her by name.hamilton man royce flynn said he had been visited six times over the last nine months, despite repeatedly saying he was uninterested in the house calls.he said the church members were always able to sign and also brought deaf people along, which lead him to believe he was being singled out.flynn said contacted local police, who told him it was a privacy issue and referred him on to the office of the privacy commissioner.he said he had been been in contact with local labour member of parliament sue moroney.deaf aotearoa acting chief executive jill dean said complaints about the church were a recurring issue.

Lee Marsh

They definitely have a list in Canada. Montreal had two deaf groups French and English. I believe one is now a congregation.

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Reading the Watchtower and Awake! is like getting a college education!

by kairos in

anybody remember hearing this?.

--.

is that comment in print anywhere?.

Lee Marsh

Well you could say that the WTS gives JWs a good education in their own beliefs.

However... a real education will give you a good education about a topic you want to study AND topics that are about the wider world (that don't exclude all information they don't want you to know).

Sadly, far too many people get sucked into believing they are actually studying the Bible when what they are really doing is studying WT beliefs which are heavily biased and dare I say full of "fake truth".

My JW neighbor truly believes that she studied the Bible. She knows the WTS gets it wrong but since she thinks she studied the Bible she "knows" she is right. Very sad.

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How far has Watchtower and the GB of Jehovah's Witnesses gone to stalk and silence critics?

by Balaamsass2 in

we have all watched some of the documentaries about the church of scientology hiring detectives to stalk and harass their former members,( their "apostates").

i have heard of individual cases of rabid jw elders stalking ex-jws, and of course, one would expect some enforcement of corporate copyright infringement on anti-jw websites.. what were the most outrageous jw "stalking" or investigation stories you remember?.

tonight's 60 minutes into ebay stalking a middle-aged couple who writes a newsletter reminded me a lot of the menlo park congregation watchtower "takeover", closure, and stalking of local elders to mind.

Lee Marsh

Balaamsass2

I quickly found similar sites. The WTS thought they could control the spread of their deceit. That just isn't possible anymore. Once it is on the 'net they can forget about controlling it.